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fidence and degraded the dignity of the him, upon a comparison of all the cirnation. He inlifted upon the bad con. cumstances of the case, that he did his fequences that would arise to future arma. duty to his country in advising the interments from the conduct of the minister; ference; and that he had also done his and concluded by asserting, that every duty in advising the object to be relinfact, and every information on the table, quilhed, which he first recommended. He justified him in voting, that the minister stated the division of the public opinion had been guilty of grofs miscondu&. ont of that house ; the influence which

The chancellor of the exchequer enter- might be made by the oppofition in that ed into the wisdom of continental alliances, house, and other concurring circumstances, and the maintenance of the balance of as sufficient ground to render that fub power, as a principle for the general hap- stantial policy to decline, which before piness of the world, and the prevention was substantial policy to adopt. He conof wars, injustice, and aggrandizemient. tended, that the opposition in that houfe He shewed the importance of Turkey to had encouraged the empress to infift upon the balance of Europe, the danger to which terms she otherwise would not have in. it had been exposed by the progrefs of the fifted upon, and that to such opposition Imperial arms; and the interest which was it solely owing that the negociation this country and Holland had invariably had not been attended with complete fuctaken in support of Turkey, from the pe- cess. That opposition, however honestly riod when the views of Russia were first made, had given abundant reason to the directed to innovate upon the possessions house to deplore its effects; for it had préof the Porte, for the purpose of erecting vented the attainment, without a war, herself into a maritime power. So far of objects which would have been of the back as the reign of king William, Eng- greatest advantage to the country. The land and Holland were the mediators of triumph of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. the peace of Carlowitz, and from that Fox) was a triiimph over the interests and time to the present had acted as the me

councils of his country, not a triumph diators in every war between Russia and over the enemies' of his country. Such the Porte. He next entered into the im a triumph he no more envied him than portance of our alliance with Prussia and he did the honours which he had reHolland, and into the policy of the last ceived elsewhere. * Mr. Pitt then enterinterference between Russia and the Portë, ed into a justification of the continuance for the mutual safety of each of the allies, of the armament, until the terms of peace whose interests were endangered by the had been finally settled ; and afferted, in progress Ruffia had made, to what had answer to the reports of this country hàx. long been her object, the establishment 'ing instigated the Turks to the war, and of a power on the Black Sea.“ Were the Sweden to join in it; that neither were permitted to obtain that object, the con- founded in truth.: The Turks had resequences could not be foreseen ; for the ceived no encouragement from England would thereby be enabled to force herself to commence the war, nor had Sweden into the fyftem of Europe as a formidable any to join it. Equally untrue were the maritime power. He argued from her affertions of our unjust interference in the past conduct toward this country, that, affairs of Brabant, and our deviation from upon the most favourable view, the man any engagernent with Prussia : on the ner in which the might exercise that contrary, every engagement England had power, when gained, would be hazard- entered into, had honourably been abided

Was it politic, then, in the pre- by; and it would be found, that instead sent maritime powers of Europe, to ex. of our own conduct being reprobated by pofe themfelves to the consequences of her the Porte, the reverse was the fact. He will, into which scale the might think could not enter into any professions of the proper to throw the weight of her ma motives that had actuated his conduct; ritime strength? Upon those grounds he for the conduct of men ryas best to be justified the interference of this country ascertained by their actions, by the public in the war; an interference founded upon opinion, and by the opinion of the mathe principle of establishing a permanent jority of the representatives of the nation. peace. He was not afraid of having his He placed his credit upon the advantages conduct m nutely examined into, being he should take, to render the

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* Here Mr. Pitt alluded to the empress of Russia having sent for the butt of Mr. Fox, in order to place it be:ween the bults of Tully and Demosthenes.

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on the permanency of its peace, its in Mr. Fox said, that considering the blea terett was founded. As the trust he held, sings derived from our invaluable constihowever, was a traft for posterity, as wehtution, and conlidering monarchy as effene as for the advantages of the moment, he tial to that conftitution, it was proper to Should, as he valued the blessing of peace, make a suitable provision for the maintenot avoid any danger that might arise to nance of its dignity in every part. At himself, by interrupting that peace wher- present the prince, for whom they wers ever the exigencies of the times required about to provide, food in so close a rela. it, for the purpose of ultimately securing tionship to the throne, that any dependence the peace of the country upon a permanent upon it could not be disagreeable ; but a foundation.

period might come when the relationship Mr. Fox rose to explain ; and, allud- would be considerably smaller. It was ăng to Mr. Pitt's asserting that he envied his with, therefore, that a principle might him not the honours he had received elle- be laid down, to make fuch a provision for where, he faid, whenever any power in the princes of the royal family, as might Europe paid him a compliment, he felt not render them, when related in a small himself grateful for it, and it became the degree to the throne, dependent upon the more acceptable to him, when from a person who might happen to wear the Power which, in his opinion, was as na crown, or dependent upon parliament. turally an ally to this country as Holland, He considered the sum now moved, merely and was a power with whoin he bad at- as a life annuity: he stated the neceffity ways considered it to be the interest of this his royal highness was under, from his country to be politically and commercially elevated rank, and from his alliance, to connected.

maintain a splendid house in London ar.d The question was then put upon the in the country, which he was left to profrk motion, “That the possession by Ruf- vide himself with, and with the complete fia of Oczakow, and the district between . Setting out of his establishment in every the Bog and the Dneister, did not affect part, without a imgle shilling, except such the interest of this country, or justify the as might be raised on his annuity, and armament.' Negatived without a divi- which could not be sailed but upon usu. fion.

rious, or, at best, very disadvantageous The question on tke second motion, terms. The fum, he contended, was ei

the negociation between this coun ther 100 much, or too litile; it was too zitia had been wholly unsuccess- much, if accompanied with a provision of

oft by the previous question residences, and a fum for setting out with wid carried.

his establishment, and too little if not fo xd and last motion was then accompanied. He wilhed the house to lay 2at his majesty's ministers had down, as a principle, the voting smaller willy of gross misconduct, tending annuities, and the provision of suitable recrease the expence, and dininish the fidences, or a sufficient sum for their projuence of Great Britain.'

vision. The present mode, be considered The house divided, ajęs, 176, BOS, to be, by involving princes in difficulties 224, majority 128.

in their outset, a temptation to make them On Weda luay, March 7, in a com bad economists. If the alliance, entered mittee of the whole house, Mr. Pitt stated into by his royal highness, Aould produce strat be tonld move two resolutions re what the house, in their addresses, always specting a fritable establishment for the termed a further fecurity for the Protestant duke und dachels of York. The firit re- fucceflion, the house would, by the

presolution wouid be, to enable bis majeky fent annuity expiring with the life of bis to grant out of the conlolidated fund the royal highness, leave princes of the house funi of 18,000 l. annually, which, alled of Brunswick anprovided for, depending to the 12,000 l. alveady granted to the wholly upon the king, and upon the geduke of York ont of the civil lift, and nerosity of future parliaments. To this to 7,000l. which would be proposed in situation they ought not to be exposed : Iseland, would render ibe amount of lw's something more permanent should be a inconje 37,0001. The second resolution dupted. It was the opinion of many, that would be, for a provision for the ciuche's the king's civil litt was equal to a proof York, in case of her surviving his royal vilion for his family. This was a question highness, for which he muld juropole as that ought not to be pailed over a it was a jointure 8,000 1. annually, to be de. a question that ought io come before the frayed out of the consolidated fund. boule. The civil lift must be ioo great,

ør it must be too small. If equal to pofed taking date for half a year back, provide for the rising branches of the and his royal highness, previous to his foyal family, it must have been too great marriage, having been in possession of a previous to the necellity for such a provie town and country refidence. kon; and if not competent, it must be Mr. Fox" represented the houses pofa 100 small for the increase of expence occa- fessed by his royal highness to have been fioned by such provision. He again con- purchased neither out of the public money, tended for the necessity of maintaining nor by any actual payments he had been princes in their due rank, and againit enabled to make : they were, in consetheir being placed in such fituations as quence, loaded with incumbrances. He might compel them to involve themselves concluded by admitting, that the civil in difficukies.--He concluded by saying, lift was inadequate to the necessary prohe would not propose any amendment, be vision for the younger branches of the cause he conlidered every proposition for family, but hoped, that in the provision the provision of princes, would best comme parliament should make for them, fome from the crown.

permanent principle might be laid down. Mr. Pitt agreed with the right hon. Mr. Burden moved an amendment, to gentleman, that every proposition for the omit the word eigbteen, for the purpose provision of a prince, ought to originate of inserting ten. with the crown. In the situation he itood, Sir James Johnstone approved of the it would be presumption to propose fur-' manner in which the annuity was prother, than he had in command fiom his posed to be granted, as it rendered the fon majefty; and not having received com- dependent upon the father, and enabled mands to offer further than he had offered, the father to destroy the effect of any conhe held it not to be his right to do more.

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upon that annuity with Jews, or He agreed also with the right hon. gen. with usurers. The hon. baronet was dederran, that if the civil lift was now com firous that the house frould be acquainted petent to make provision for the rising with the revenues of the bifhopric of Of branches of the royal family, that it mult naburgh, being convinced, that when they have been too much before ; but that it were added to the other sums intended to was not, he might safely refer to the ex be granted to his royal highness, his lituaperience of the right hon. gentleman him- tion would appear evidently fuperior to felf. Experience had for some time shewn that of the fon of any other Sovereign in that the expence upon the civil lift had Europe. been such as to render the sum for it not Mr. Fox said, he never had heard it too much ; and the house, in the last even surmnised that parliament had the leafe feffion, by relieving unanimously the civil right to enquire into the revenue of the lift from the annuity of 12,000l. to his king arising from his electorate of Hanoroyal highness the duke of Clarence, and ver : equally unjust would it be, to exatransferring it to the consolidated fund, at mine into the foreign poffeffions of his royal a time when the materials were before them highness. The hon. gentleman (Mr. Bure to prove that the desired relief was reason- den] who had proposed the amendinent, able and just, afforded fufficient informa- having not given a seaton for lowering the tion to lead to conviction that it could not annuity, and not having proposed a probe adequate to the present provifion, which vision for a residence, or an adequate sum, must be left to the generosity of the na- he should certainly object to the amend, tion, and not to the civil lift. The pre!ent ment. sum proposed was what his majesty had Mr. Burden gave as a reason for pide thought proper to request, in addition to poling his ainendment, an opinion that the 12,000l. annually, which had been the country was not in a situation to bear, granted from the civil lift : future pro as a precedent, the higher fum. vision was not necessary on that day to be Mr. Pitt, in reply to arguments ad. difcuffed : 'the time would certainly come vanced against the proposed annuity, as when such discussion would be necessary. a principle for the piovision of other He had no instruction to propose any pro- branches of the royal family, faid, he vision for houses for his royal highness; had not brought it forward as any such but he wished to correct a mistake of the principle; the near situation of his royal right hon. gentleman, in his assertion that tighness to the crown, and his alliance, his royal highness had no houses, and might make that maderate and proper, that he was set out in his establishment which to another, differently situated, might without a shilling; the provision now pró- be excessive and improper.

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Sir William Dolben considered the in- The country ought to be too proud to retended annuity to be the opening of an ceive a shilling earned by the labourer of extensive field of permanent expence to Osnaburgh, or of Hanover, in fupport of the country. He was ready to go as far her royal family. It ought to be a fuffias any man, to sew his respect for his cient gratification in the foreign possessions sovereign ; but could not consent to the held by our princes, that none were for present provision, which, if agreed to, he much esteemed in Germany for the libee feared would be considered as a precedentrality of their government. In father, and by future houses of commons. The sum in son, examples were set of liberality, of proposed to be granied upon the English justice, and moderation. If the house and Irith establishments was little Ahort of meant to express their approbation of the 40,000l. a year; and should this prece- marriages of the younger sons of the predent be followed in provisions for the sent family, an ample provision ought ra other branches of the royal family, the be made for the support of the marriages expence would be between two and three so entered into. The present provision he hundred thousand pounds a year. He could by no means consider as a preceu wilhed the queftion to be well considered, dent; and as a proof that precedents were for if it was not fully difcussed in that not followed in provisions for princes, he house, it would be unpopular out of the thought the situation of the prince of Wales koule.He withed gentlemen to remem was a striking instance. He could not see ber, that they might be called upon to upon what decent ground gentlemen could grant fortunes to the amiable princesses. oppose a fuitable provision for the branches There were ober branches of the royal of the royal family. Were gentlemen family also to be considered, all of whom forry that his majesty had, a numerous would have reason to complain if not as family? Were they forry that they had well provided for as the duke of York. grown to maturity? Had they acted the The revenue of Osnaburgh, he contended, part of hypocrites in their congratulatory ought to be conlidered, which revenue, if addresses to the throne on every increafe of managed fairly, would produce ten or the family; or did they mean to say that swelve thousand pounds annually.

the houfe of Brunswick' was a grievance ? Mr. M, A. Taylor said, the hon. ba- He wished gentlemen would speak out; ronet had eitimated the revenue of Osna- and state at once what they wished. He burgh more, by half, than he had ever would af any man who was willing to before heard it; but whatever the amount admit monarchy as essential to our con was, he confidered it to be totally out of ftitution, whatever narrower notions hd the present question. He concluded by might entertain of the eftablihments of faying, he mould give his vote for the princes, whether he was willing to reduce larger fum, not looking upon it as a pre- monarclay to the plaineft state of a fimple cedent for the provision of any other prince, republic, and whether they were ready to tmless fuch prince should fand in the fame admit those impolitic levelling principles

; relation to the throne, and be fituated of reducing a prince of high rank to the the fame by marriage.

plain situation of a private gentleman : Sir James Johnstone faid, he could and to reduce a princess of elevated con aver, from the best information, he had dition to that of a plain and fimple gentlébeen enabled to obtain, that the revenue woman? Such principles he condemned, of Olaburgh amounted to 35,000l. a year, and contended that when genten en would

Sir William Dolben said, whatever the consider the necessary expence of the duke revenue might be, it was an advance to in employing gentlemen for his houseto the income of his royal highness; the hold, and ladies of the mot elevated ranks xleficiency of which the house would be for the household of her royal highness, that under the necessity of making up to other the sum proposed would'in no degree be princes, whenevertheirettablishments should consulered too large. ccme to be voted.

After fome other gentlemen had spoken Mr. Fox rose to contend against argue for and against the amendment, it was menis advanced on the revenues of the withdrawn, and Mr. Pitt's first resolution bilacpuic of Oliaburgh: ; for neither with was carried. The second resolution was those' revenues, nor with the revenues of then moved, and carried without oppoftHanover, had this country any thing to tion. do.-Gentleinen necd not be told, that the On Thursday, March 8, in a committee elector of Harover and she prince of Of- of the whole house, Mr. Pitt obferted, naburgh owed sluiies to their subjects. tbat having given notice that on the pre

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fent day he should fubmit to a committee upon false principles; and if upon partie
his propositions for a new bill for accele- cular circumftances, or upon what mighe
rating the payment of the national debts have been considered political expediency,
and as the principle upon which his reso that those circumstances and that expedig
lutions were founded was likely to be ency no longer had an existence.
adopted, he would not trouble the com In the relief honourably granted by the
mittee further than by merely ftating the house, in the last feflion, to the Roman
resolutions he should move, as it might Catholics, it had been his with to have
be more agreeable and convenient to dif. the whole of the penal acts against them,
cuss them when a bill founded thereon which disgraced our Aatute-books, ex,
fhould be before the house. He con- punged. Actuated by the same with, the
cluded by reading two resolutions, the first course he should take, if the house per
of which went to continue the effect of the mitted him, would be, to move for a re-
finking fund for the reduction of the na: peal of all the penal laws against religious
tional debt, subfequent to the period when opinions ; and when fuch bill had gone
the interest of the money in the linking the length of a committal, gentlemen might
fund should amount to four millions an ftate the laws they confidered necessary to
mually ; and the fecond, to prevent any remain. Should this mode, however, be
future permanent burdens on the country, abjected to, he would propose only the re,
by enačting, that a provision should be peal of the laws complained against in the
made for the speedy payment of every prefent petition. He concluded by saying
loan entered into, or that an additional he should bring forward a proposition on
fum, in proportion to the loan fo bor+ the subject on an early day.
rowed, thould be fet apart for the re On Thursday March 15, Major Mait.
duction of the whole national debt. land rose to move certain resolutions ref.

The question being put on each reso pecting the war in India. He doubted lation, they were agreed to, and the house not, he said, before he fat down, to be enawas refumed,

bled to prove, that the war was founded in Mr. Fox then said, he held in his hand injukice and impolicy, and likely to be ters a petition from a great number of perfons, minated by consequences tending to the ruin complaining of the grievances under which of our settlements. The points to which they laboured, by the acts of the gth and the hon. gentleman wilhed particularly to 10th of king William, and by a claufe in draw the attention of the house, were; first, the Toleration Act, which subjected to to the letter from Lord Cornwallis, to the severe penalties all who did not agree with Nizam, dated July 7, 1789, which was, the doctrine of the Trinity, according to in his opinion, as gross an instance of the Thirty-nine Articles. The petition duplicity and juggle as ever disgraced this svas signed by 1600 persons, fome of whom country. The lecond was, to the original were Unitarians, fome Arians, beside many object of sending British troops into the respectable Churchmen and Diffenters, who 'Travancore country; and the next, to the were averfe to penalties for religious opis mode of procuring money to conduct the nions, and whole liberality induced them yox. To provide for the expences of the to petition upon the ground of toleration, wit, pofleffion had been taken of the terriand the freedom of religious enquiry. : tories of the Nabob of Arcot and Tan.

The petition was brought up and read : jore, which act hrad exceeded in turpitude it concluded by praying; that leave might every one of those committed by the person be granted to bring in a bill to repeal the now expiating his crimes at the bar of the acts and the clause complained against. house of lords. He contended, that the

Mr. Fox again role; and though not ruin of the Mysore government would be at present prepared to submit to the house the ruin of the Britich interests in India, by any motion upon the perition, he hould destroying the barrier between us and the feel it his duty, he said, before much time Mahrattas. He entered upon the treaty of elapsed, to submit a , propofition to the 1768, which was entered into between the house. In such proposition, .fhould he company, the Mahrattas, and the Nizam, consult his own feelings, it would go much for the purpose of checking the rapid in, farther than the prayer of the petition; crease of the power of Hyder Ally. The for it would go to a general fwveeping treaty of 1769, he said, invalidated that of away of all the penal laws on our Itatute. 1768, which was now, however, by lord books against religious opinions, being Corowallis' letter, raked from the dust convinced that those laws had been enacted with which it had been covered for 20

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