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I know one case of a youngster 16 or 17 years of age in my own neighborhood, who got $160 a month and his ration pay for quarters, while the veteran in the Army service, who was fighting received $50 plus overseas-allowance pay.

TRAVEL OF ESCORTS

Project 422, travel of escorts, total program $15,621,346; the amount appropriated, $9,251,824; the amount deferred, $6,243,376; balance required for the fiscal year 1949, $126,146.

AMOUNT OBLIGATED TO DATE

How much of that $9,000,000 appropriated and deferred has been obligated?

Colonel MARSHALL. $71,000.

Mr. ENGEL. Just $71,000?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes. We are just now getting started on this part of the program.

Mr. ENGEL. You feel that you will require the $126,146 plus the $9,251,824, unobligated?

Colonel MARSHALL. The program is laid out on the basis of so many trips per man, and it works out that we will require a balance. of $126,146.

Mr. CASE. What was the date of this obligation you just mentioned?

Colonel MARSHALL. November 30.

Mr. CASE. November 30.

Colonel MARSHALL. That is right.

General LARKIN. We had brought back very few by that time.
Mr. CASE. How many have you brought back?

General LARKIN. By November 30?

Mr. CASE. Yes.

General LARKIN. About two ships.

Colonel GAGNE. There were 3,500 on one, and about 5,000 on another.

Mr. CASE. You estimate how many will have been brought back by the end of this year?

General HORKAN. We estimate we will have brought back by June 30, 64,000.

Colonel MARSHALL. If I may interpose this statement, the expenditures we make are picked up after the obligation has been made, and because of that fact there is a lag in the payment, and results in a lesser amount being shown as being paid than the actual obligations. This obligation is made at points in the field, and we do not pick it up until it is reported as an expenditure by the Finance Office. Mr. CASE. In other words, the expenditures are shown by you rather than the obligations?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes. There is a 60- to 90-day lag.

Mr. ENGEL. You have an estimate here to provide for two escorts. Colonel MARSHALL. Yes; that is from port to distribution centers. General HORKAN. When they come back to ports and to the distribution centers, they come in trainloads; and we only need one escort per car; but when they reach the distribution centers they are broken down by individuals.

TRANSPORTATION OF REMAINS

Mr. ENGEL. Project 430, "Transportation of remains": Total program $14,345,911; appropriated, $6,725,528; amount deferred, $7,620,383; required for 1949, nothing. Colonel MARSHALL. That is right.

TRANSPORTATION OF SUPPLIES

Mr. ENGEL. Project 431, "Transportation of supplies": Total appropriation, $1,251,629; appropriated, $5,844,452; amount deferred, $166,737; balance of the requirement for the fiscal year 1949, $1,240,440.

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes.

Mr. ENGEL. That is for transportation of caskets?

Colonel MARSHALL. And supplies; caskets and various types of supplies needed at overseas points and within the United States.

Mr. ENGEL. That takes care of the transportation costs within the United States and overseas as well?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes; that is for the transportation cost of supplies both in the United States and overseas.

COMMUNICATION SERVICES

Mr. ENGEL. Project 440, "Communication services"; total program, $2,445,007; appropriated $1,872,316; amount deferred, $150,238, and the amount required for 1949, $422,453.

Colonel MARSHALL. That is for communication services both here. and for overseas, covering cables, radiograms, telegraph service, telegraph services, which includes the rental on teletype machines, and miscellaneous communications services, overseas areas.

Mr. ENGEL. And the rental of teletype and leased wire, and so forth?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. ENGEL. Are there any questions on project 440?

CONTRACTUAL FIELD PRINTING

Project 450, "Contractual field printing": There was appropriated for the total program $50,244, amount deferred nothing, and balance required for the fiscal year 1949 nothing.

CHARTER, HIRE AND CONVERSION OF VESSELS

Project 460, "Charter, hire and conversion of vessels": The total program is $754,863. The full amount was appropriated, the amount deferred is nothing, and the requirement for the fiscal year 1949 zero. Mr. CASE. That is a pretty sizable item. How much has been obligated there?

Colonel MARSHALL. On project 460?
Mr. CASE. Yes.

Colonel MARSHALL. $578,000.

Mr. CASE. $578,000?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. CASE. You do not anticipate that you will need any more in

1949?

Colonel MARSHALL. No, sir.

General LARKIN. Yes; I believe we will, sir, on account of this one ship that has been destroyed. We will have to convert another ship. Mr. CASE. I notice here you have three Liberty ships converted and one CI-M-AVI type ship, and then you have the U. S. Army transport Joseph V. Connolly; you have $103,000 for the conversion of that ship, and that ship was burned.

General LARKIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. ENGEL. Will you require another ship now?
General LARKIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. ENGEL. Have you not advanced far enough now so that you will not need another ship?

General LARKIN. No.

Mr. ENGEL. How long will it take you to convert another ship? General HORKAN. Sixty days.

Mr. CASE. You were using the Connolly without its having been converted?

General LARKIN. No. It was converted at a cost of $103,000.

Colonel MARSHALL. This is the total program. We are showing the total program.

OPERATION OF VESSELS

Mr. ENGEL. Project 461, "Operation of vessels." The total program is $10,202,035. The amount appropriated was $7,620,712; the amount deferred, zero; and the amount required for the fiscal year 1949 is $2,581,323.

Will you justify that on the basis of the number of trips, and so forth?

Colonel MARSHALL. The number of trips is based on the program for the return of the World War II deceased, based on the timing that we must use in evacuating cemeteries overseas and the number of bodies to be brought back in each vessel. The vessels are being used to carry caskets and supplies over to the foreign areas, and the same vessels are used in returning the bodies.

That makes up these trips as indicated on page 203 of the justifications.

Mr. ENGEL. You have 35 trips, at an average cost of $135,339.33, or a total of $4,736,876, on the Atlantic?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. ENGEL. And on the Pacific Ocean you have 22 trips, at an average cost of $159,900, or a total of $3,517,808.

Now, I think on page 204 a break-down of the average voyage cost on the Atlantic coast is given, and I think that page may well be placed in the record.

(The matter referred to is as follows:)

CEMETERIAL EXPenses, War DEPARTMENT, NO YEAR (ACT OF MAY 16, 1946)

PROJECT 461. OPERATION OF VESSELS

07 Operation of vessels: A break-down of average voyage costs for the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans follows:

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Wages, weekly: $3,032.67, plus 23 percent overtime and 7 percent bonus, 10.8 weeks..

Food: $1.46 daily per person ($490.56 per week) times 10.8 weeks.. Fuel at sea: 220 barrels, at $2.02 per barrel, $444.40 daily, times 43 days.

Fuel in port: 60 barrels daily, at $2.02 per barrel, $121.20 daily, times 32 days..

Voyage repairs: $125, times 75 days......

75

$42, 578. 68 5, 298. 05

19, 109. 20

3, 878. 40 9, 375.00

Foreign port stevedoring, loading and unloading: 6,200 cases, at $6.75 per case_-.

Average foreign port fees, exclusive of wharfage: $700 per port, times average, 5 ports.

3, 500. 00

41, 850. 00

5, 250.00 4,500.00

135, 339. 33

Expendable stores, paint, rope, grease, and class A stores: $70 per day..

Replacement of 15 percent cap dunnage..

Cost per voyage...

WEEKLY WAGES, OVERTIME, AND BONUSES

Mr. ENGEL. Can you give us further a break-down of those weekly wages of $3,032.67, plus 23 percent overtime, plus 7 percent bonuses. Why is that bonus paid? I suppose that is a question for the Transportation Service of the Army?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. ENGEL. I wonder if you could have the Transportation Service of the Army furnish us a break-down of that?

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes, sir.

General LARKIN. We can get that for you and have it inserted in the record.

Mr. ENGEL. Yes, sir; and the bonuses that they paid here, and just how much they have to pay them.

General LARKIN. Yes, sir.

Mr. ENGEL. This first page is the Atlantic, and the next page is the Pacific. You will insert that in the record and have them give us the same information on that.

Colonel MARSHALL. Yes, sir.

(The matter referred to is as follows:)

CEMETERIAL EXPENSES, War Department, No Year (Act of May 16, 1946)

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Average vessel operation cost per voyage, west coast-Continued Wages, weekly: $3,032.67 plus 23 percent overtime and 7 percent bonus, 13.8 weeks..

Fuel at sea: 220 barrels, at $2.02 per barrel, $444.40 daily, times 57.3 days...

Fuel in port: 60 barrels, at $2.02 per barrel, $121.20 daily, times
38.7...

Food: $1.46 daily per person, 48 persons, weekly $490.56_-.
Voyage repairs: $125 daily, times 96 days..

$54, 406. 09

25, 464. 12

4, 690. 44 6, 769. 73

12, 000. 00

ports...

3, 500. 00

Foreign port stevedoring, loading and unloading: 6,200 cases, at

$6.75 per case..

41, 850. 00

Average foreign port fees, exclusive of wharfage: $700 per port, times average,

Expendable stores, paint, rope, grease, and class A stores: $70 per day...

Replacement of 15 percent cap dunnage.

6, 720. 00 4, 500. 00

Cost per voyage.-

Overseas requirements are as follows:

AMERICAN ZONE

159, 900. 38

Cost of the operation of an Army freight ship utilized in Brazil, Iceland, and Newfoundland to concentrate isolated remains into established temporary cemeteries, 4 months, at $25,000 per month..

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$100, 000

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Third assistant engineer.

4, 500

1 deck engineer..

4, 188

1 storekeeper.......

3, 910

3 firemen and water tenders, at $2,382.

3, 210

7, 146

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