HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

EIGHTY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

FIRST AND SECOND SESSIONS

ON

H.R. 3920

A BILL TO PROVIDE UNDER THE SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM FOR PAYMENT FOR HOSPITAL AND RELATED SERVICES TO AGED BENEFICIARIES

NOVEMBER 18, 19, 20, 21, AND 22, 1963, AND

JANUARY 20, 21, 22, 23, AND 24, 1964

PART 3

(JANUARY 20, 21, AND 22, 1964)

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CONTENTS

Table showing contents of each volume by page numbers and dates

Date

Pages

1963

(Nov. 18.

1-206
207-346

Press release dated October 29, 1963, announcing public hearings on the
subject of medical care for the aged to begin on November 18, 1963____
Examples of bills currently pending before Congress:

H.R. 3920, a bill to provide under the social security program for pay-
ment for hospital and related services to aged beneficiaries..
S.2431, a bill to provide health care for persons 65 years of age and over
through contributory social insurance, and a complementary basic
national private insurance plan..

H.R. 9732, a bill to provide through the Social Security System a
means of financing hospital and related services to aged beneficiaries,
but offering freedom of individual choice to each beneficiary to
select voluntary health plan coverage, and for other purposes..
H.R. 21, a bill to provide for the medical and hospital care of the aged
through a system of voluntary health insurance, and for other
purposes..

H.R. 766, a bill to provide for the medical and hospital care of the aged
through a system of voluntary health insurance and tax credits, and
for other purposes..

H.R. 4511, a bill to amend titles I and XVI of the Social Security Act
to permit the administration of medical assistance for the aged under
an approved State plan by or under the supervision of a State agency
separate from the State agency administering the rest of the plan__
Brief comparison of major types of health insurance proposals pending
before the Committee on Ways and Means, dated November 14, 1963

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1

3

1243

1812

1087

1110

782

Faces p. 26

III

STATEMENTS BY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS

Agriculture, Department of, Hon. Orville L. Freeman, Secretary --
Health, Education, and Welfare, Department of:

Ball, Hon. Robert M., Commissioner of Social Security Administra-
tion...

Page

444

26

Celebrezze, Hon. Anthony J., Secretary-

26

Cohen, Hon. Wilbur J., Assistant Secretary for Legislation.......
Myers, Robert J., Chief Actuary, Social Security Administration__
Nestingen, Hon. Ívan, Under Secretary.

26

26

207

Labor, Department of:

Chase, Arnold, Assistant Commissioner, Bureau of Labor Statistics__
Wirtz, Hon. W. Willard, Secretary----

207

207

STATEMENTS BY PUBLIC WITNESSES

Adams, Arlin M., secretary of public welfare, State of Pennsylvania
Alford, Dr. Dale, a former Representative in Congress from the State of
Arkansas

Allan, Lillian, Social Security Clubs of America and the National Federa-
tion for Social Security-

American Academy of General Practice, Dr. Albert E. Ritt, president.
American Association of Homes for the Aging, Dr. Herbert Seltzer.
American Association of Medical Assistants, Judy Coleman, president. -
American Association of Workers for the Blind, Irvin P. Schloss, legislative
analyst..

590

914

1959

1078

1553

American College of Radiology, Dr. David S. Carroll, chairman, board of
chancellors__

Wilson, Dr. John B., chairman, council on legislation

1286

American Farm Bureau Federation, Mrs. Haven Smith, chairman,
women's committee..

1453

American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations:
Biemiller, Andrew J,. director of legislation...

1205

Carey, James B., secretary-treasurer, industrial union department.
Cruikshank, Nelson H., director of department of social security-
Meany, George, president..

1871

1205

1205

American Foundation for the Blind, Inc., Irvin P. Schloss, legislative
analyst..

1553

American Hospital Association:

Williamson, Kenneth, associate director, and director, Washington
service bureau....

349

Wilson, Dr. David B., chairman, council on government relations.
American Life Convention, H. Lewis Rietz- - -

American Nursing Home Association, William E. Beaumont, Jr., president.

1862

American Optometric Association, Dr. Norman Haffner

909

American Podiatry Association, Dr. Earl G. Kaplan, president_
American Public Health Association, Dr. Milton Terris..

1692

1382

American Public Welfare Association, Charles I. Schottland, committee on
public welfare policy.

1635

Americans for Democratic Action, Dr. Frank F. Furstenburg (presented
by David Cohen)..

1544

American Veterans Committee, Chester C. Shore, chairman legislative
committee, statement_--

2203

Andrews, Hon. Mark, a Representative in Congress from the State of
North Dakota__

1450

Annis, Dr. Edward A., president, American Medical Association.
Arkansas Medical Association, Dr. Joe Verser, president...

643

1514

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Dr. Thomas Parker,
president..

1080

Baldinger, Irving, vice-president for health, education, and welfare, District
65, Retail Wholesale and Department Store Union, AFL-CIO..
Baring, Hon. Walter S., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Nevada...

Barron, Hon. William W., Governor of West Virginia.

Barry, Hon. Robert R., a Representative in Congress from the State of
New York...

Page

331

281

1761

625

Bartley, E. Russell, director, industrial relations, Illinois Manufacturers
Association..

1995

Baskin, Oakley, International Association of Health Underwriters
Beaumont, William E., Jr., president, American Nursing Home Associa-
tion....

1964

1862

Belden, Joe, Belden Associates, Dallas, Tex..

1735

Berger, Donald, legislative assistant to the president, New York State
AFL-CIO..

Biemiller, Andrew J., director of legislation, American Federation of Labor
and Congress of Industrial Organizations.

Blackford, Frank, vice chairman, Life Investment Management Co., Inc.
Blake, Dr. Henry S., chairman, board of directors, National Association
of Blue Shield Plans...

1703

1205

1580

1941

Bober, Joseph C., secretary-treasurer, Connecticut State Labor Council,
AFL-CIO..

Blue Cross Association, Walter J. McNerney, president.

Bolling, Hon. Richard, a Representative in Congress from the State of
Missouri..

Bow, Hon. Frank T., a Representative in Congress from the State of Ohio
Brotzman, Hon. Donald G., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Colorado..

Brown, Hon. Edmund G., Governor, State of California, as presented by
John M. Wedemeyer, director, California Department of Social Welfare..
Brown, H. S. Hank, president, Texas AFL-CIO.

Brown, Hugh, president, Florida State Council for Senior Citizens, Inc___
Buhler, Dr. Victor B., president, College of American Pathologists.
Bunch, Dr. C. Pardue, president, New Mexico Medical Society (statement
presented by Dr. Emmitt M. Jennings). .

Burns, Dr. Eveline M., National Consumers League...

292

Burton, Hon. Laurence J., a Representative in Congress from the State of
Utah...

313

Byers, Clint, Social Security Clubs of America and the National Federation
for Social Security-

587

Cafritz, Dr. Hubert L., Hyattsville, Md..

2013

California, State of:

Brown, Hon. Edmund G., Governor..
Wedemeyer, John M., director, Department of Social Welfare, pre-
senting Governor Brown's statement...

918

918

California Hospital Association, Clifton H. Linville, president
California Medical Association, Dr. Samuel R. Sherman, president..
Carey, James B., president, International Union of Electrical, Radio &
Machine Workers of America, and secretary-treasurer, Industrial Union
Department (AFL-CIO). - .

1982

2077

1871

Carlton, Winslow, secretary, National Committee on Health Care of the
Aged..

1296

Carroll, Dr. David S., chairman, board of chancellors, American College of
Radiology

1036

Chamber of Commerce of the United States, Karl Schlotterbeck, manager,
economic security department..

1622

Chapotz, Charles, United Pensioners, IVE Electric Workers Retirees, and
District 15 Steelworker Retirees (read by Guy F. Fain, president, Na-
tional Association of Retired and Veteran Railway Employees)...
Chicago Area Senior Citizens Association, Bessie Gottlieb, vice president.
Christian Science Committee on Publication of the First Church of Christ,
Scientist, Dr. J. Buroughs Stokes, manager, Washington office..
Clement, Dr. Kenneth W., president, National Medical Association.
Cohen, David (presenting statement of Dr. Frank Furstenburg, Americans
for Democratic Action).

594

561

484

1657

1544