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and perhaps Oklahoma, in part; the Omaha station would reach into Iowa; the Moline, Ill., station would reach into Iowa. There are many situations of that kind.

A Boston station would reach into New Hampshire, into Maine. Except for some of the Texas stations and California stations, it may be a little difficult to think of any which would not.

Mr. MOORE. That is all.

Senator MONRONEY. I want to ask one more thing.

The open rates for one broadcast would be the same, whether bought for poltical purposes or bought for commercial purposes; would they not?

Mr. HEFFERNAN. That is right. We have no premium charge for poltical broadcasts, as such.

Senator GILLETTE. Mr. Heffernan, the committee is very much pleased at the way in which you gentlemen and those who preceded you have cooperated with us. We know that you have made a great deal of research in order to be helpful to us, and we want you to know that we consider it very vital information and hope you realize something of the magnitude of the task that we are trying to perform for the American people here.

Thank you very much.

(Appendix A faces this page, appendixes B and C, submitted by Mr. Heffernan, are as follows:)

APPENDIX B

NBC television network data chart, Mar. 1, 1952-Estimated TV set ownership

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NOTE.-Set counts in some cities are made on a quarterly basis, with interpolated estimates for the intervening months. Consequently, some of the increases shown this month are subject to later revision.

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NOTE. Rates as of Apr. 15, 1952; subject to change without notice. The above rates are based on the class A time rates. Class B time rates can be computed by multiplying the class A time rates by 75 percent, and class C time rates can be computed by multiplying the class A rates by 50 percent.

Senator GILLETTE. The subcommittee will stand in recess, and reassemble on call of the Chair.

(Whereupon, at 12:55 p. m., the subcommittee recessed subject to the call of the Chair.)

PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE FEDERAL CORRUPT

PRACTICES ACT

THURSDAY, APRIL 24, 1952

UNITED STATES SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS OF THE
COMMITTEE ON RULES AND ADMINISTRATION,
Washington, D. C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10: 05 a. m., in room 104B, Senate Office Building, Senator Guy N. Gillette (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Present: Senators Gillette (presiding) and Hennings.

Also present: John P. Moore, chief counsel; Israel Margolis, assistant counsel.

Senator GILLETTE. The subcommittee will come to order.

The subcommittee meets again this morning on call of the chairman to receive further testimony from witnesses appearing on behalf of the radio and television industry. At our meeting last Thursday we had the pleasure of hearing from Mr. Adrian Murphy, president of the CBS radio network; and Mr. Joseph V. Heffernan, financial vice president of the National Broadcasting Co.

As the witnesses here know, this subcommittee has been investigating for some time the vast expenditures of money that are incident to our campaigns and which are becoming more and more expensive. We are exploring the possibility, or the advisability, of some corrective legislation that will help in this matter of expenditures realizing of course that with the growth of the use of different publicity media for campaign purposes and the extent to which they are used, campaigns cannot be conducted on the limited basis that has been extant in the past.

That is why we have asked the help of you men in the two particular areas of television and radio as to your suggestions. Of course, a few years ago the use of radio and television in campaigns was unheard of; but it is utilized more and more and is very expensive. The television representatives last week were very helpful in their suggestions and their report as to the use of their particular facilities.

This morning our scheduled witnesses are Mr. Harold Fellows, president of the National Association of Radio and Television Broadcasters; and Col. William A. Roberts, representing the DuMont network.

Colonel Roberts, are you ready to talk to us? This is not formal in any way. We just would like to have you proceed in any way you want to with a formal statement or any comment on it; and I think you would be ready to have us interrupt you with questions if we saw fit at any time.

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STATEMENT OF WILLIAM A. ROBERTS, WASHINGTON, D. C.,

REPRESENTING THE DUMONT TELEVISION NETWORK

Mr. ROBERTS. I would like to supply the information as a delegate of DuMont and as requested by the committee. Then I have some rather strong ideas of my own on the subject having to do with the mission of the committee. I am, of course, available for any questioning at all.

Senator GILLETTE. Your suggestions will be very welcome. Will you identify yourself for the record, your name, residence, and official capacity?

Mr. ROBERTS. My name is William A. Roberts. I am senior partner of Roberts & McInnis in the DeSales Building, Washington, D. C. I am a member of the bar, engineer, and have been engaged in the field of communications law and regulation for about 25 years. My experience has been both in the field of the common-carrier communications, the wire services; and then as radio came along, in the field of radio, radio-networking; and as television began more than 15 years ago, I became associated with the early phases of television.

I was, from the inauguration of the first of the national broadcasting committees, having to do specifically with television general counsel, first counsel, of the TBA, Television Broadcasters Association, which was the first industry association. Mr. Thad Brown, of my office, was directly assigned to that organization up until the time when NARTB was reorganized and he became successively counsel and director of the television division of that organization.

I have been counsel for DuMont since DuMont has been in the television business, dating back before public broadcasting.

Senator GILLETTE. All right, the counsel will take charge of you and you may proceed.

Mr. ROBERTS. With respect to the initial questions on the cost of service, I have brought with me the rate cards of Allen B. DuMont Laboratories, Inc. That licensee is the owner of three television broadcast stations. The one is WABD in New York City, the metropolitan originating station; WDTV in Pittsburgh, which is the only commercial broadcasting station in Pittsburgh and therefore has some unusual responsibilities; and WTTG in Washington, D. C., the pioneer

television broadcast station.

DuMont claims for itself that it was the first commercial television organization to have a network program, that very simple network being one between New York and WTTG in Washington.

It is exclusively engaged in the electronics business. It has never been in the standard broadcast business. It has never participated in the ownership of any standard broadcast stations. It has no newspaper or other publishing affiliations, being engaged entirely in the manufacture of electronic appliances, transmitters, receivers, in the television field, and military equipment.

The rate cards are current. And starting with WABD, which is the largest station of the three and the home originating station in New York, the date is November 1, 1951, rate card No. 9.

Mr. MOORE. Excuse me, Colonel Roberts. I wonder if we could have that identified, Mr. Chairman, as exhibit No. 1?

Senator GILLETTE. Yes, it may be identified and made a part of the record.

(Exhibit 1 was so identified and is as follows:)

EXHIBIT 1

WABD RATE Card No. 9 (EFFECTIVE Nov. 1, 1951) ·

SECTION 1. General telecast advertising1

CLASS A

(7 p. m.-11 p. m., Monday through Saturday; 6 p. m.-11 p. m., Sunday)

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1 Net frequency rates per program. Rates for periods longer than 1 hour are in exact proportion to the
corresponding 1-hour rate.

CLASS B

(5:30 p.m.-7 p. m. Monday through Saturday; 1 p. m.-6 p. m. Sunday)

1 hour.

45 minutes..

$1,650.00 $1, 608. 75 $1, 526. 25 $1, 485. 00 $1, 443. 75 $1, 402. 50 $1, 361. 25 $1, 320.00 $1, 237. 50
1,320.00 1, 287.00 1, 221.00 1, 188.00

1, 155.00 1, 122. 00 1,089.00 1,056. 00

990.00

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Net frequency rates are based on the total number of program periods or an-
nouncements in all rate brackets used within 1 year for the same advertiser;
however, program periods and announcements may not be combined for frequency
rate. One-minute announcements and/or 20-second announcements, in all rate
classifications may be combined with certain participation announcements to
determine the frequency rates on such announcements and participations. Not
all participations earn and/or combine for frequency discounts. Eight-second
announcements in all classifications may be combined to determine their fre-
quency rate, but do not combine with any of the foregoing 1-minute or 20-second
announcements. Discounts may be allowed currently on noncancellable con-
tracts. On other contracts, discounts will be allowed when earned. If a contract

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