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Borghini, in the second book of his 'Riposo,' Even in these days we are, as is well known, dedicated to Don Giovanni Medici, writes at much behind our continental neighbours in great length as to the significance of colours. this regard, as well as in that of "fingerI extract what relates to green (ed. 1584, posts" and like indicators. From the followpp. 237-8) :

ing paragraph, which I have found in the “Vsa la Chiesa Santa i paramenti neri nelle roga- London Evening Post for 10 September, 1743, tioni, e ne giorni di afflittione, e d'astinenza per li it would seem that the setting up, or at least peccati, & in altri tempi, che hora non dico the providing of funds for setting up, of per venire à trattare del verde sesto colore. milestones, even on such an important high Questo perche non participa molto del nero non road as that between Croydon and London, è così ignobile come il color nero, ben che sia men nabile degli altri colori : & alcuni vogliono, perche was at that time left to the public spirit of egli non è annouerato fra i quattro elementi, che private individuals :egli sia di tutti il men pregiato; nondimeno egli “On Wednesday they began to measure the rappresenta alberi, piante, prati, verde herbette, e Croydon Road from the Standard in Cornhill and fronzuti colli, cose giocondissime, e dilleteuoli alla stake the places for erecting milestones, the invista ; però non dee esser tenuto in poca stima. habitants of Croydon having subscribed for thirteen, Significa allegrezza, amore, gratitudine, amicitia, which 'tis thought will be carried on by the Gentlehonore, bontà, bellezza, e secondo la comune

men of Sussex. opinione speranza. Fra le pietre pretiose s' asso

W. Mor THOMAS. miglia allo smaraldo, fra le virtù dimostra la for. tezza, fra pianeti Venere, fra metalli il piombo, FELLOWS OF THE CLOVER LEAF.-Informanell' età dell'huomo la giouentù fino a trentacinque tion is sought as to the history of this society anni, nei giorni il giouedi, nelle stagioni la Prima uera, ne mesi il verde oscuro Aprile, & il verde or order. On 17 May, 1866, Capt. Arthur chiaro Maggio, e ne' sacramenti il matrimonio. E Chilver Tupper, F.S.A. (when did he die and il verde di grandissimo conforto alla vista, e la where buried ?), exhibited to the Society of mantiene, e consola quando è affaticata ; e perciò Antiquaries two small pewter flagons about gli occhi molto si dilettano, e si compiacciono de! 8 in. high. One was inscribed “Jochim color uerde. Vsa la santa Chiesa i paramenti uerdi Lvers 1645 "; the other, “Peter Fisker 1645 nell'ottaua dell'Epifania, nella Settuagesima, nella Dit is Der Repper gesellen er klever Blat.” Pentecoste, -nell' Auento, e ne giorni feriali, e comuni.”

Each bore L. S. and shield with castle as pew-
Q. V. terer's mark. T. Cann Hughes, F.S.A.


'ASTRÆA VICTRIX.'—Can you inform me We must request correspondents desiring in

where to find a poem entitled “Astræa formation on family matters of only private interest Victrix, or Love's Triumph,' by L. Willan, to affix their names and addresses to their queries, gent. ? It was probably published about in order that the answers may be addressed to them|1750 or later. I was born Willan, my granddirect.

father being a certain Dr. Robert Willan, Sadler's WELLS PLAY ALLUDED TO

F.R.S., F.S.A., born at Sedbergh, Yorkshire. WORDSWORTH.--I shall be obliged if any one

He practised in Bloomsbury Square, and can tell me what was the date of the play, died in 1812. My ancestors lived in or about founded on the story of John Hatfield and Sedbergh for several hundred years, and Mary of Buttermere, and produced at Sadler's Leonard and Lancelot were two family Wells Theatre, to which Wordsworth alludes names.

Willan is quite a Yorkshire name. in the Prelude,' book vii. It must have

MARY AUGUSTA HOWELL. been between 1803 and 1805, for the poem

Holy Trinity Parsonage, High Cross, Tottenham was finished during the latter year, and SPEECH BY THE EARL OF Sussex, 1596.-I during the management of the Dibdins. In desire to know if there is in existence a the Brit. Mus. collection of Sadler's Wells perfect copy of ".

a speech by the Earl of play bills I came across one in which was Sussex at the tilt," 1596. There is a mutilated announced for 25 April, 1803, “William and MS. of it in the Duke of Northumberland's Susan,' the favourite burletta, in which are collection. It begins : Most divine, and various views of the lake of Buttermere. more mighty than that queen to whom all Possibly this is the play in question.

other queens are subject.” John Oates.

H. W. B. Rutland House, Saltoun Road, S.W. (No mention of this work occurs in the ‘Biographia Dranjatica' of Baker, Reed, and Jones, 1812.]

MAYERS' Song. (See 3rd S. vii. 373.)-Is it

possible to ascertain what was the musical MILESTONES. When did our forefathers rendering of this ballad? I am giving a begin to recognize the importance of accu- paper on the Hertfordshire Mayers' Song rately marking distances on our high roads ? ! shortly, and am anxious to have it sung by


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a quartet in costume. For the benefit of MDCCCLXXXVII.), there are the words “non those who may not be able to consult the hoc virtutis opere fieri.”. Here, however, above reference, I may be permitted to give virtutis perhaps means of force," and opere the first verse as supplied by CUTHBERT is "of, i.e. by necessity," that is "willy nilly." BEDE:-

A similar expression is probably to be found Here comes us poor Mayers all,

in many books written between the time of And thus we do begin

St. Gregory and Bacon.

To lead our lives in righteousness,
For fear we should die in sin.

“OMEGA," AN OLD CONTRIBUTOR.- About This song was, I believe, sung in some of the fifty years ago a contributor to `N. & Q: neighbouring, counties—Cambridge, Bucks, signed with the Greek omega reversed. Is and Bedfordshire.


there any clue to his name nowadays? I. Bishop's Stortford.

Right Hox. EDWARD SOUTHWELL.-I shall “Not ALL WHO SEEM TO FAIL."-_Who wrote be glad to know who purchased the diary of the the following lines ?above, 1684-1716, at the sale of the Phillipps Not all who seem to fail have failed indeed; Library, Cheltenham. . It mentions the Not all who fail have therefore worked in vain. writer's marriage with Miss Blaythwaite. CHARLES Š. King, Bt.

There is no failure for the good and wise ; St. Leonards-on-Sea.

What tho' thy seed should fall by the wayside,

And the birds snatch it? Yet the birds are fed. FRANCIS HAWES : Sir T. LEMAN.-I shall

W. S-R. be_glad of any information concerning : 1. Francis Hawes, of Berks, who died in 1764.

LEGEND OF THE COUNCIL OF CONSTANCE.He was a director of the South Sea Company, The Russian poet A. N. Maikov—a cosmoand had an elder brother Thomas. 2. Sir politan writer, whose range embraced ancient Thomas Leman, the last holder of the extinct and modern worlds, and who rendered old baronetcy.


romances in charming classic verse-relates

in song the following legend. Before the “AMPLE."—In the review of the December Council a grim doctor learnedly expounds Scribner (9th S. xii. 480) occurs the sentence: John Hus's guilt and the appropriate sentence “Views of Buda and Pest are not in colours, at wearisome length.

Near the Emperor but are ample and very effective." Is not this stands a youthful page, who finds the prouse uncommon? Ample for what? The point ceedings dull. As evening approaches somewould have escaped my notice but that I am thing in the garden attracts him; he glances acquainted with a family whose members use through the window and smiles. Involuntarily this word frequently with a meaning peculiar, the Emperor's eyes follow the page; then the I imagine, to themselves. The sensation Pope's austere features relax, and soon the experienced when cutting, or seeing some one whole assembly of princes and prelates gaze cut, asunder a thick roll of butter, when the towards the windows, enchanted by Philomel's wheels of a cart cut through mud of the con- song in the garden. Tender memories renew sistence of butter, or when one touches or themselves in the minds of those stern ecclepresses velvet with the hand, is described siastics, and even the ruthless doctor stammers, by them as "ample.” The associated idea blunders, and finally softens. Suddenly an appears to be that of pr ed, clinging old monk confesses that he was about to say resistance. They can afford me no particulars “ Hus is innocent” under the influence of the of the origin or descent of the word, but sweet melody, which must proceed from maintain that it has been handed down in Satan himself. In horror the whole Council the family for some generations.

rose, sang “Let God arise," then bowed GEORGE C. PEACHEY. before the crucifix in prayer, and at last QUESNEL.-Can any reader inform me of the condemned Hus to the stake and anathemaexistence of portraits in Scotland of about fiend fled from the garden, and dubious

tized the innocent nightingale. The supposed the time of James V. by Pierre Quesnel ?


witnesses saw him pass over the lake in the

form of a fiery flying serpent, scattering SHAKESPEARE'S “VIRTUE OF NECESSITY.”- sparks in his rage: Has any pedigree for the phrase “make a Maikov's poem is entitled 'Prigovor' ('The virtue of necessity” been discovered by Doom'), and I am endeavouring to render it Baconites ? On p. 72 of “Gregori I. Papæ in English. Is such a legend recorded elseRegistrum Epistolarum, Tomi I. Pars I. Liber where?

FRANCIS P. MARCHANT. 1.-IV., edidit Paulus Ewald” (Berolini, Brixton Hill.

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EJECTED PRIESTS. On the accession of “GOING THE ROUND": "ROUNDHOUSE.”—Is Queen Mary in 1553 many of the so-called it not probable that the phrase "going the

reforming clergy" were ejected from their round," or "rounds," is much older than it livings. Where can a list of them and par- looks, and that it had its origin in the watchticulars be found ?

1. man's rounds, that functionary sometimes

announcing news over and above that which “DON'T SHOOT, HE IS DOING HIS BEST.”— I related to the weather ? “To walk the should be glad if some one would inform me round” often occurs in the plays of Maswhether the following quotation comes from singer and his contemporaries.

In The Mark Twain or Artemus Ward: "Don't shoot, Picture,' for instance, a tragi-comedy, acted he is doing his best,” Is the quotation in the "Black Fryars” in 1636, we find correct? Was the notice put over a new (Act II.):organist in a church in the Western States, Dreams and fantastic visions walk the round. or did it apply to a pianist in a drinking saloon ?

H. M. C.

In 'King John'(Act II. sc. ii.) the Bastard

soliloquizes :BAGSHAW.-Can any of your readers give

And France, whose armour conscience buckled on, me information respecting Samuel Bagshaw,

Whom zeal and charity brought to the field

As God's own soldier, rounded in the ear who published at Sheffield, in 1847, a ‘History, With that same purpose-changer, that sly devil, Gazetteer, and Directory of the County of

Commodity (i.e., interest). Kent,' in two volumes? Did he produce any Here “rounding in the ear

to other works of a like character? I do not whisper. An old phrase similar to our find his name in the_ 'D.N.B.,' nor in any modern local work with which I am acquainted.

"going, the round" was "to go

current" or to" go for current”: “A great

CHARLES SMITH, while it went for current that it was “From WHENCE."-In a review of my pleasant region ”(Purchas, ‘Pilgrimage,' p. 18).

. Was not a roundhouse, by the way, so

' published hy Constable, exception was taken called from being a prison in which such to my use, in one place, of the form “from lawbreakers were confined as were taken up whence." It occurs on p. 438, in the story of by the constable or watchman on his rounds ? 'Puran Bhagat,

"Let me return from whence Timbs, however, says that the watch house I have come.”

Now, of all Eastern stories, was called a roundhouse " because it suc'Puran Bhagat is the most Biblical in motive ceeded the Tonel or Roundhouse ; the tonel and feeling, and I used the condemned form having been an old butt or hogshead, or deliberately, not inadvertently, because I something in the shape of one." What auhad in my mind such passages of the Bible thority had Timbs for saying this? Is it not as “The land of Egypt, from whence ye came

an assumption based merely on the fact of out” (Deut. xi. 10), * From whence came they

the “Tun in Cornbill having been built unto thee ?” (Is. xxxix. 3) and many others. somewhat in the fashion of a tun standing Shakespeare also this construction on its bottom? And the roundhouses were several times, as, for example: “Let him generally either hexagonal or octagonal, I walk from whence he came, lest he catch cold


J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. on's feet” ('Comedy of Errors,' III. i. 37). MARRIAGE REGISTERS. Are there any

With this array of precedents, may I ask registers or records of the Fleet marriages, whether or not it is open to a modern writer, and especially of those performed by the translating archaic tales into English, to make chaplain of the Chapel Royal, Savoy, during a discriminating use of the same form? I do 1754-5, after the passing of Lord Hardwicke's not deny grammatical inaccuracy, but I hope Act? What records exist of marriages in the day is far distant when the old pic- Guernsey, the

Isle of Man, and Gretna Green turesque irregularities and licences of our from 1754 to 1857 ? THORNE GEORGE. beautiful English tongue shall all be ground down to the dead monotonous level of [For Gretna Green registers see General Indexes.] Académie French, for instance. Perhaps INTERMENT IN GRAVES BELONGING TO OTHER some contributors will also kindly mention, FAMILIES. — This practice is sometimes perif possible, the earliest and the latest accepted mitted, or even desired by friendly persons. work in which the locution from whence is to Can any instances of it in Queen Elizabeth's be found.

time be given ?

I. I may add that from thence also occurs in the Bible; for instance, twice over in JOHN HALL, BISHOP OF BRISTOL.-John 2 Kings ii.

CHARLES SWYNNERTON. Hall was Bishop of Bristol from 1691 to his




death in 1710. The 'D.N.B.' makes no men. Lord Stafford to marry her. However tion of his wife. What was her maiden name? this may have been, the union between a When did he marry her? and where? stolid, middle-aged Englishman and the

BERNARD P. SCATTERGOOD. lively daughter of a French father and a "O COME, ALL YE FAITHFUL." Can Mr.

Scoto-Irish mother could hardly

be expected

to turn out happily. SHEDLOCK or some of your readers inform me

Lady Stafford, both in as to the origin of the tune popularly known youth and age, was one of those characters as the Portuguese Hymn’? There seems some girlhood was that of Beatrix Esmond; her

that Thackeray was happy in depicting. Her reason for believing that the tune was written old age that of the Baroness Bernstein, with by John Reading, a pupil of Dr. Blow. In a notice of the Christmas service at the Roman a dash of Lady Kew. She probably had her Catholic Westminster Cathedral in the Daily the words recorded by Lord Hervey in refer

husband in her thoughts when she uttered Telegraph of 26 December last, it is stated :

ence to Queen Caroline and George II. :“Recently, it may be noted, the melody was restored to its simple form and key, and each of

Pour moi, je trouve qu'on juge très mal-si cette the eight verses being harmonized by a different pauvre Princesse avait le sens commun, elle doit British musician, the variety of treatment thus être embarrassé dans sa situation ; quand on a un obtained proved exceedingly interesting.”

tel rôle à jouer, qu'on doit épouser un sot Prince et N. S. S.

vivre avec un désagréable animal toute sa vie

privée, on doit sentir ses malheurs, et je suis sûre [See' Adeste Fideles,' Fifth Series, General Index.] qu'elle est sotte, et même très sotte, puis qu'elle

n'est pas embarrassée et qu'elle ne paraît point

confondue dans toutes les nouveautés parmi lesBeplies.

quelles elle se trouve.

As things turned out, Lady Stafford, notHENRY, EARL OF STAFFORD, ON HIS

withstanding Lord Hervey's opinion of her FRENCH WIFE.

judgment, was completely mistaken in her (9th S. xii. 466.)

view of the situation. The queen, instead Tae eccentric provisions of Lord Stafford's of vividly feeling her position in being yoked will are known to students of Grammont, to so disagreeable a husband as George II., and the passage quoted by Dr. FURNIVALL played her part through life with the cheerwill be found in the introduction, p. xxv, ful and unembarrassed bearing that had of Mr. Gordon Goodwin's edition of the distinguished her when she first made the • Memoirs,' published by Mr. A. H. Bullen acquaintance of the king, and succeeded in in 1903. The exact date of the will is 2 Feb- securing as much affection as it was in his ruary, 1699/1700, a year later than that given power to give to any woman. by DR. FURNIVALL The earl subsequently Lady Stafford, when in England, used to added two codicils to his will, but no mention live at Twickenham, where she became on of his wife was made in either of them. He very intimate terms with Lady Mary Wortley died without issue, 27 April, 1719, in his Montagu. When, in 1727, the old countess seventy-second year, and was buried in West- set out for France, Lady Mary wrote to her minster Abbey. He had been an adherent sister, the Countess of Mar, that her friend of James II., and followed his master to had carried half the pleasures of her life St. Germain-en-Laye, where on 3 April, 1694, with her; she was more stupid than she he married Claude Charlotte, the elder of the could describe, and could think of nothing two daughters of Philibert de Grammont but the nothingness of the good things of and Elizabeth Hamilton. These two girls this world. She relates the scandal that were described by the Marquis de Dangeau arose from the intimacy of the second Duchess (Journal,' i. 241) as great intriguers, and of Cleveland with her husband's young kinsbetter known in society than many belles, man, Lord Sidney Beauclerk, the father of though very ugly. They seem to have inherited Johnson's friend Topham, and sends her a the wit and vivacity of their father without copy of verses on the same theme, winding partaking of the beauty of their mother. up with an ill-founded and ill-natured mot Claude, though not in her first youth, was of Lady Stafford's. Walpole knew the old eighteen years younger than her husband, lady in his childhood, and averred that she and scandal had already been busy with her had more wit than either of her neighbours, name in connexion with the young Duke of Lady Mary or the Duke of Wharton. She Orleans, afterwards the celebrated Regent. died in 1739, and her will, dated 13 May in It is said that his mother, the Duchess that year, was proved three days later by of Orleans, whose maid of honour Charles, Earl of Arran, to whom she left all Mlle. de Grammont had been, persuaded her property.

10th S. 1. Jax. 2, 1904.]



The countess's younger sister, Marie used the heterodox form in the title of his Elisabeth, was born 27 December, 1667, and, book, and wrote Geschichte der Mongolen having entered into religion, became the oder Tataren' (Breslau, 1872). Dr. Koelle Abbess of Ste. Marie de Poussaye in Lorraine. himself confesses that his views on the She died before her parents in 1706, and, etymological nature of the name Tartar have Walpole records that he was told by an old resulted merely” (sic) from his exhaustive friend of hers, Madame de Mirepoix, the study of the Tartar roots, and therefore rest French Ambassadress, that she was ten times on purely philological data, whilst every more vain of the blood of Hamilton than of historical consideration seems to be opposed an equal quantity of that of Grammont.* to them. When he asked Tartars what they Lady Stafford seems to have been equally called themselves, their reply invariably was attached to the family of her mother. "Tatar” or perhaps "Tattar.” On one occa

W. F. PRIDEAUX. sion only, two men who seemed to be more

intelligent than the rest promised the Berlin “TATAR" OR "TARTAR” (9th S. xii. 185, doctor that they would make inquiries, and 376).—I have read Dr. Koelle's article in came back with the, to him, welcome news vol. xiv. of the new series of the Journal of that they had consulted some old men of the Royal Asiatic Society, and come to the their tribe, who thought that the form advoconclusion that he belongs to that class of cated by him was the right one. Orientalists of whom Voltaire made such fun With regard to the allegation that the in the preface to his 'Charles XII.' or ‘Pierre Chinese are mainly responsible for the use le Grand,' I now forget which.

of the inaccurate form, Dr. Koelle seriously The “perhaps greatest European authority maintains that in the name of the village on the group of Central Asiatic languages Ibn Taltal, near Aleppo in Asia Minor, the begins his disquisition with the ex cathedra second word, not being Arabic, must "evistatement that every one knows that formerly dently" be the Chinese pronunciation of all Europe was agreed in saying and writing Tartar ; but he does not explain how other Tartar, and it is only in modern times that geographical names like Tatar - Bazardjik, would-be clever folks have begun to substi- Tatar-Bunar, Tatar-Köi, Tatar-Mahallé, &c., tute the incorrect form Tatar.t "All Europe” have managed to escape the same fate. must be taken in a somewhat restricted sense, Moreover, the doctor does not quote a like "the British nation” in the famous single instance of the form Taltal from any manifesto issued by the three tailors of genuine Chinese source. According to D'HerTooley Street, because it never included belot, in the Chinese dictionaries Tata is the Russia, Poland, Hungary, Rumania, or general term for all the (=dogs), or barTurkey. It must be assumed, therefore, that barians, of the North. Dr. Koelle also quotes the learned Orientalist was not aware of this "Ta-che,” “Ta-chin" (i.e., Ta people), Tache circumstance, or he would have made some Linya"=the popular name of a certain Tarattempt to explain why so many millions of tar Academician, “Tatal au lieu de Tatar”; Europeans, all of whom have been in close but the form Taltal is evidently not to be contact with the Tartars off and on for found in any old Chinese source. centuries, use the incorrect form. He gives Dr. Koelle's explanation for the presence some kind of explanation why the Tartars of the final – in Tatar may be ingenious, themselves, the Turks, Arabs, and Persians, but is not convincing. Many Tartars, he do not use the right name; but as a matter states, undertook to write their language of fact he has not produced a tittle of evidence with Chinese characters. Now, if they found to show that the form Tartar was used by their name written as Tatal (not Taltal, be it any one else than the Armenians, the Greek noted) by the Chinese, this was a precedent and Latin writers, and the Western nations which they were tempted to imitate, first in of Europe. France and England are still writing, and perhaps soon also in speaking; orthodox in this respect, but the Germans are but as the Tartars did not share the inability gradually going over to the opposite faction. to pronounce the letter r, they naturally said Even 0. Wolff, although "on the right track Tatar where the Chinese said Tatal. Thus of the etymology of the word Tartar," has the Tartars themselves fell into the habit of

pronouncing their own as Tatar, * Letters of Lady M. W. Montagu,", ed. 1837, partly from

writing it in Chinese characters, . 217-220 ; ' Letters of Horace Walpole,’ Cunning and still more from their daily intercourse ham's ed., ii. 262; Toynbee's ed., iii. 64.

+ But Dr. Koelle himself quotes from the sixteenth with the Chinese. century · Thesaurus' of Rob. Stephanus : “Tartari This theory is evidently founded on an sive Tattari (Táptapoi), gens fera.”

anecdote which I heard many years ago

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